Thanks AFIV.. You have made my life complete now..When I was at Syracuse that year with The Rios car we watched early practice and Gary went buy where we were parked and you could visibly see a differance compared to other cars..Everybody was heard saying what the h#$% was that thing??? The rest is history...A very beautiful work in metal..Thanks for the info from underneath it...It was roped off all weekend..HtH